Brian, sorry it took so dag on long to respond I have just got in from the ol box of sand , I have crossed trained with alot of Army snipers as well as Rangers ,OUTSTANDING!! bunch of guys we had a great time shooting together and even though I was a Marine they accepted me like a brother..... they almost got me in trouble in FT Bragg during a combat medic training course.....I thought Marines liked to fight..not true!! compared to a friggin Ranger...and bro believe me I love YAKKIN in the dark or on full moon nights....and disembarqing to hang a hammock for the night makes it that much sweeter..take care bro and keep in touch